Tuesday, 24 February 2015

Been Here, Done This: Or...Why do country club and big business Republicans choose to be stupid and chicken?

     One of the remarkable things about the big powerful control poobahs of Industry...the veritable magnates...is to see them do really stupid things.   Marrying girls younger than their daughters, for instance.   Another characteristic is settling for a free ticket to the gulag for the pleasure of strutting around for a few years, acting just as if the "high position" was granting control over one's own destiny.
     One brings to mind, always, the German Industrialist class and their Conservative Party buddies in the German Bundestag during the early years of Adolf  Schicklgruber's political dominance.
Adolf Schicklgruber
Yes, Virginia, we know that Schicklgruber's surname was
not Schicklgruber, but it's fun to say, and Schicklgruber
should have been his surname.
So there!
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     The thing is, the Conservatives made deals with Adolf and they represented the interests of the potent industrialists who were situated in various parts of Germany, but especially in the Ruhr Valley and the maritime zones.   It would be a deal made in some Teutonic Paradise, with the Capitalists telling Adolf how things would be run, and finally Germany could, after Hindenburg's death, have a modern government, no monarchical traditional bologna, no communists, a disciplined Lutheran / Roman Catholic religious construct (not too demanding), and a scientific community second to none.   Now! They could teach the rest of Europe and whatever else the rest of the Earth was called, a few lessons about production and prosperity.
     Of course, by the time 12 pages of the calendar had been turned, all German industry was busy doing whatever Schicklgruber wanted or demanded.  The Austrian Corporal was off to succeed where the Corciscan Corporal (pictured above - not bad duds for a corporal) had failed.
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FAST FORWARD TO THE PRESENT:
     And so now we have the problem.  We have the "correct and respectable" Republicans telling us that we must go ahead and bite the bullet this time, just this once.
    If not, and  if we insist on cutting out part of the "homeland security" sham department, there will be another government shutdown.   The press will say bad things about us and the retarded Easter Island  and text-while-you drive communities will gather at their next Gruber & Co. Focus Group and tell the moderator that the Republicans should compromise so that the people don't lose government things and everything.   And the children.
     HELLOOOooooo!!!   The parasitical zombie community and their controllers in the Democrat National Socialist Workers' Party have already played that card....thrice....during this current regime.   The first time if worked, but not as well as is remembered.  The second time it began to unravel due to the notion that the President had to stop visits to the White House by "common" tourists because the Secret Service (?) told him he had to because of "sequestration and budget  gutting. Other things like prohibiting people from taking pictures of Mount Rushmore or visiting War Memorials were obvious blackmail manoeuvres that Valerie Jarrett thought would work, but did not.  In fact the entire clunky, flunky soap-opera backfired.
     Please remember, dear Grand Poobahs of the exclusive Grand Excelsior Country Club and the Magnates of the Corner Office, the Republicans destroyed the Democrats in the past election.  Eric Cantor lost his renomination to his Virginia House  seat.  Maryland has a Republican Governor.....remember?   remember?


     Do we remember that we lost the Presidential in 2012 because Romney would not fight through the last debate tag-match, and because he said he agreed with much of Obama's foreign policy and that he wanted to repeal and REPLACE the Obama Socialised Medicine Initiative?   The foot-washer, and the snake handler, and the right-wing crazy communities suddenly went "Yawn"....and went fishing.  Romney also, essentially stopped campaigning because it was a very nasty business, not suited for the upper crust.
    Simply and finally stated, it would be best to push a vote through on the DHS funding, en toto, minus the provision for the implantation of Obama's amnesty initiative.   Takes some testosterone supplement and do what we sent you all up there to do, McConnell, McCain, etc.   Remember where Christi is running in the preliminary beauty-contests for the Republican nomination.
Thanks for the time and interest.
El Gringo Viejo
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Monday, 23 February 2015

Why One and Not the Other? Bergdahl's Legacy and the grounds for impeachment and conviction.

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     We try to avoid the useless and even ill-advised call for the impeachment of a sitting public official.  Our first, but not final, impulse concerning the punishment of high crime and/or misdemeanour by highly placed elected and appointed persons is to allow them to stew in their juices until their terms of employment conclude.   Usually the miscreants will stew in their own juices, committing more and more acts of hubris and self-indulgence until finally they are consumed by their own rot, as in the case of Mayor Nagin and a thousand other petty self-worshippers.
 
     But, what we have here is a failure to communicate among ourselves something that is very obvious. 
     The point is that we have a situation where "Sergeant" Bergdahl was traded out for five general officer level murdering thugs of the al Qaeda grouping was stunning enough.   We were then treated to one lying explanation and one insulting explanation from the inner offices of Valerie Jarrett after another.   All the explanations and justifications were vetted before the drooling stooges of the dull-normal Democrat-base focus-group community.  Such an astute government advisory body is ideal for an anti-American Regency and All the King's Persons motives and intents.
 
     First of all, it was known by the White House that the person being liberated was a deserter in the face of the enemy during time of hostility, engagement, and active combat. 
    Second, it was known that the deserter had defected to the enemy and made himself available for all nature of vile purpose.
     Third, it was known that American and allied combat personnel were killed and wounded in the attempt to ascertain the condition and location of, and the recovery of, "Sergeant" Bergdahl.
     Fourth, it was known that the Presidency was flailing about, searching for any straw in the wind that could be used to justify the advance of the objective of emptying out Guantanamo Bay's terrorist detention facility.
     Fifth, the manoeuver of releasing such prisoners in any military style exchange, at that level, require Congressional participation, and none was requested nor given.   Further, Congressional members in neither the Upper House nor Lower were approached or informed of the intention of the White House to make this illegal exchange. 
 
    So, after all the above, an exchange was made, delivering "Sergeant" Bergdahl back into the hands of the American military.  It is understood that as much as two to five million dollars may have been paid from un-known sources to the terrorists who had held the "Sergeant" for several years.
     Particularly telling is that the president of the United States went out of his way to have the parents of the deserter - collaborator come to the White House, go before the national and international press, with the president, and send a message more to "Sergeant" Bergdahl than to America.   The father went into an incoherent blather about extraneous issues finally ending with a blurb in Arabic that made certain that Bergdahl's parents were grateful, not to America, but to Islam and the terrorist captors.  President Barry was very pleased with this, and went back to the inner sanctum with his two friends to plot more ways to degrade the value of America and Americanism.

     Curmudgeons and doubters thought to themselves, "Did we actually see what we just saw?"
      Reasonable people wondered if this action would cause an immediate and unreasonable increase in the price for the possible liberation of other captives, American and other than American.  Why would not the Islamic nut-case terrorist not think, "Wow!  The Gringos really are stupider than a drunk camel.  Five big cheeses for one stinking, retarded, deserting traitor.  They'll give a billion dollars for a female aid-worker."
kayla jean mueller, american female isis hostage
Kayla Jean Mueller
 

      But there was one problem.  The female American aid-worker was not a Muslim, nor was anyone in her family.  So, she was of a lower order of concern, plus there was nothing really anti-American in her background that would make her more of a sympathetic figure to Valerie Jarrett, or to Michelle Robinson's magic hashtag solution machine.   So, not even a smidgen of a selfie could be wasted on the girl who brought her captivity on to herself, said Barry to himself, as he adjusted the focus on his next selfie.
     It is not just El Gringo Viejo who declares these things to the OROG community and to the Cosmos.  The parents and the brother of Kayla spoke with Barry, and registered the above observations with Barry, apparently without apology or regret or any particular due respects.  The father pointed out, apparently, that the paying and trading out for a scumbag like Bergdahl, essentially for the benefit of his Muslimised, anti-American parents, raised the cost of liberating any and all European and "incorrect" Muslims being held by the sub-human jackals who rape and behead eight year old Arab Christian girls. 

     All of the above is true.  My concern is for the parents and the brother of Kayla.  My next concerns are for the fact that these manoeuvers  were done, accepted, and glossed over by the Obsolete Media, and then disregarded by an electorate that becomes ever less qualified for self-governance.
Governor Walker thanks maintenance workers at the La Crosse rest stop while there to encourage tourism and announce construction of a new rest area.  7/21/14
     It is more important that the Obsolete Media remind us how much Her Antique Bovinity Queen Hillary had to fly, in an airplane no less.  The Obsolete Media has to attack Hizzoner Giuliani for speaking the Truth about Barry, the Nephew of Zietuni and Omar.  And then, since there is nothing of import to report, they have to trundle on to attack Scott Walker because of some truth that was said by an ex-mayor of New York City.   Does this make sense to someone who thinks that a transgendered female can marry his washing machine and an elephant and demand that I call such a thing a family.   Probably so, but it does not make sense to me.  What in the Jumping Jehoshaphat does Scott Walker have to do with what Mayor Giuliani says?

     Could not the Obsolete Press have checked just a bit into the matter of Bergdahl?  Or into any of several score of the high crimes and misdemeanours of this horrid administration?  The answer, of course, is no.  It is an administration of their own creation, and they feel quite certain that it is a perfect administration.  The worse it becomes and the more corrupt is becomes, the more it is worth the defending.  They measure a Democrat Socialist administration not so much even by the socialist bills that they can pass or rules they can impose without authority.   They measure the success of a Democrat administration by how much that administration can get away with in terms of violation of rules and existing law.

     So, we can solve the problem by shipping the entire American and most of the foreign press to Maduro's Brave New World once known as The Venezuelan Disaster Chavez left behind, or maybe to a wondrous magical land like Cristina's Menagerie of Madness once named the Argentine Disaster Peron and Evita left behind.   There are so many places where the American Obsolete Media would be so much happier....imagine....unflushable toilets,  socialised medicine where everybody doesn't receive any service equally, and the wealthy go to Spain, Mexico, France, or the United States for medical attention....ooops...Fidel and Raul already have that under control.
 
     Finally, we genuinely think the American public would probably support vigorous action against this horrid administration simply by leaking, spilling, and disgorging all the known material that contrasts the treatment of the "sergeant" with the young woman Karla Jean.   It would infuriate the most hardened Democrat who is still remotely sane.
 
El Gringo Viejo.
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Sunday, 22 February 2015

The New Martyrs of Libya added to the Coptic Synaxarium 


New Martyrs of Libya
 
His Holiness Pope Tawadros II announced the inclusion of the 21 Coptic New Martyrs of Libya in the Synaxarium of the Coptic Orthodox Church today. Every year, they will be commemorated on 8 Amshir in the Coptic calendar, which corresponds to 15 February in the Gregorian calendar, the same day as the Feast of the Presentation of our Lord in the Temple.
Axios, Axios, Axios!
 
 
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All OROGs will remember that there was one Black man in the group of Martyrs, and one will noticed that he is depicted in the middle of the group of the included in the Coptic Synaxarium.   That is correct in the truest sense, because that was his placement in the group that was senselessly murdered by the ISIS monsters solely because these men would not renounce their Christianity.

Worthy, Worthy, Worthy!

Amen.

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Saturday, 21 February 2015

Obama: Devil or Angel? Christian or Muslim? Good or Bad? Atheist Marxist or Muslim? Pathological Liar or Golfer?





Barack Obama: 20 Quotes on Islam; 20 quotes on Christianity–So Which is He?


Obama serious



OBAMA on ISLAM:


1. “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

2. “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim "call to prayer”,

3. “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world – including in my own country.”

4. “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

5. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

6. “Islam has always been part of America”

7. “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

8. “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

9. “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

10. “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”

11. “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”

12. “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”

13. “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”

14. “throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”

15. “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”

16. “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.'”

17. “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”

18. “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”

19. “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

20. “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”
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Barack Obama on Christianity:



1. “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”

2. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

3. “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”

4. “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”

5. “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counselling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”

6. From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex-nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”

7.  Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

8. “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”

9. “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and proselytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”

10. “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”

11. “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”

12. “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”

13. “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will-they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”

14. On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”

15. “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

16. “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”

17. “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”

18. “we have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”

19. “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra – (applause) – as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”

20. “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

SOURCE: Clash Daily.
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     This material was forwarded by our forward outpost observer on the north edge of the Frontier of the Republic of Texas.  He and his are facing another bout with Global Warming to-night, with snow, freezing rain, and sleet in the forecast for as much as three different calendar days.  If only Bush had moved aggressively on the Kobe Agreements on Climate Change we would not have to be suffering like this....(?).   You all please light a candle for El Zorro and his people and his ranch.  As he pointed out during my last whining the other day in a family email, our old bones and blood just don't handle cold very well anymore.
     Please spread El Zorro's forwarded mail as far as you might wish, should it seem worthwhile.  I move to do so immediately after this posting.
El Gringo Viejo.
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Friday, 20 February 2015

Fifty Shades of Red - "Patriotic" O'bama

       Much is made of Mayor Giuliani's "insensitivity" demonstrated by his referring to Barry Soetoro as "un-patriotic".  What seems strange is that such a reasonable and provable conclusion would seem to be so controversial.   Hizzoner was only following his normal, Italian, emotional, and reasonable notion that he likewise exhibited during his opposition to public funding for the portrait of the Blessed Virgin Mary covered in elephant dung.  He seemed to take exception as well to the notion that placing a crucifix in a jar of urine was an art-form.

     No man would attend a church where the daily bread was baked up in raving, lunatic hatred of America as the only place in the world where any injustice had ever occurred to anybody, if in fact that man did not agree with the preacher who spewed such vomit.
      Ill-treatment of poor, downtrodden Mexicans?  Try the post-revolutionary administration of Mexico by the marxist cabal that flowed into the vacuum left by the deaths and/or departures of the ghoulish, deranged Marxist-Leninists Carranza and Obregon.   In their efforts to shut down the Catholic Church....exactly in the manner that an Austrian corporal would be shutting down the synagogues of Europe at almost the same time.....over 100,000 Mexican Catholics were murdered.  Another 150,000 died fighting, and finally stalemating, the much superior Mexican official military arrayed against them.


     Present-day, daily reports for genocidal depravity in Africa, by different ethnicities within the black-African cohort are standard fare.  Or slavery
Frank Marshall Davis
being practiced to this day by Arabic and black-African traders?  No problem. Pol Pot, anyone?  We shan't bore the readers with the other two or three hundred thousand recent cases of gross injustice in the world that is not caused, even remotely, by the existence of the Great American Experiment in the making the common man sovereign.
 
     The individual pictured stage-left, is a classic piece of the Red Brick Road that Barry Dunham Soetoro Obama stumbled over during his pot-smoking truancy from responsibility.   Sometimes referred to as Barry's communist god-father, Frank was just your normal perverted porno producer who liked to befriend very young white women and young boys.  He was something like a spiritual counsellor.
 
     He liked to recite his volumes of perverse poetry about underwear, etc. and was a well known member of the very active Kremlin- controlled communist presence in Hawai'i.  He made no bones about his membership in the party.
 
     At every turn, Barry's guides, tutors, advisors, and choir of docents were very far out commies and marxists (same thing), dedicated to the "fundamental transformation" of the only shining city left on the smouldering ruins of the mountainside that used to be Western and European Judeo-Christian Civilisation.
     Obama's biological father, his mother, his grandparents, and once again, the whole choir of the Greek tragedy that performed the acts that brought up Barry the Magnificent to become the greatest single legal, political, and cultural scholar in history gave us this Grand Gift for Eternity.
 
     And that grand gift is detestable, an insult to all patriots, and more than enough justification for Mayor Rudy to speak out, accurately, about the horrid pretender who presently occupies the White House.   Long will Barry give thanks to Lucifer, the object of Alinsky's dedication of his book "Rules for Radicals" that served as Barry's guidebook for "spreading the wealth" and punishing the traditionalists.
 
    We must speak clearly and not suggest that Barry is somehow a patriot, if only in a different way.   We must not "cut slack" and assume that there is some kind of hidden love-of-country that we are incapable of comprehending because we do not have Barry's superior moral and legal angle or prism of reflexion.  Barry is a fraud.  He is not especially intelligent or even above average in terms of his mental acumen.   He is a liar.  He is immoral and self-indulgent.  He is a poseur.  And, he is, oddly enough, a bully.   In a twist to the concept of Yin-Yan, we note the perfection in the relationship between Barry and (Sir Edmund) Hillary in that each is worse than the other.
 
Thanks for your continued interest.
El Gringo Viejo 

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Thursday, 19 February 2015

Southern Tier of New York State counties & Fifteen incorporated cities seek to secede from New York and join Pennsylvania

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Conklin, NY (WBNG Binghamton) The local economy is pushing one organization in Upstate New York to pose a question: Is it possible to secede to Pennsylvania?

The Upstate New York Towns Association is researching this very topic. The group says a few factors pushing its research are high property taxes, low sales tax revenue and the recent decision to ban hydraulic fracturing in New York.

             

"The Southern Tier is desolate," said Conklin Town Supervisor Jim Finch (R). "We have no jobs and no income. The richest resource we have is in the ground."

Finch said the ground in Conklin is rich with natural gas in the Marcellus Shale. However, that shale is unable to be tapped. He described this ban as a violation of his natural rights as a property owner.

There are 15 towns interested in the secession, according to the Towns Association. These towns are in Broome, Delaware, Tioga and Sullivan counties. The association declined to name the towns without their permission and also declined to comment on specifics at this time. As of now, research is ongoing. The group will be updating Action News with all of their findings in the coming weeks.

The association said it's comparing taxes and the cost of doing business in the two states. It says the facts show there is a huge difference between the two.
Also being considered are things like workers comp, surcharges, unemployment and health insurance. The association's understanding is that the secession would have to be approved by the New York State Legislature, the Pennsylvania State Legislature and the U. S. government.
"We're comparing the taxes in Pennsylvania compared to those in New York," said Finch. "There's a great, great difference. Right now, we are being deprived of work, jobs and incomes."
Action News spoke with two local business owners in Conklin about the proposal. John Gage, owner of Reliable Market, said he fully supports the idea.
"The tax structure in New York is just horrible to do business in," said Gage. "Whether it's fracking, or other reasons to secede, it sounds like a good idea to me."
However, other local owners are taking into account outside factors that could affect their stores. For example, state licensed shops would be at risk if the change were to occur.
"From my standpoint, owning a liquor store, if we were a part of Pennsylvania it would be hard," said Francis Larkin, owner of Spirits of Conklin.


Binghamton, New York is where the
"r" of Montrose is on this map.

Larkin said he isn't sure if he would be able to even own his shop anymore, considering Pennsylvania privatizes all liquor sales.
Sen. Thomas Libous (R) recently sent out a flyer in the mail, asking his constituents what they think about the secession. He sent Action News the following statement:
"After the one-two punch to our community from the recent casino and gas drilling decisions, my office received many emails, phone calls and messages from constituents calling for a Southern Tier secession from New York State. While getting my constituents' opinion on spending the $5 billion surplus was our top priority, I thought a question on secession should also be included in the survey."


Public Avenue in Montrose, Pennsylvania
 Centre-most Montrose and it Court House
 


Civil War Monument - Susquehanna County
Courthouse, Pennsylvania
Commemorates 96th Pennsylvania Volunteer
Infantry Regiment, the outfit in which two of
El Gringo Viejo's Uncles died during
the Summer of 1863, in combat.



 
     The  above article was transmitted over southcentral New York FOX - 2 WBGN - Television News,  Binghamton, New York.  This community, along with a row of the southern-most counties adjacent to Pennsylvania are in a bit of an uproar due to the fact that they see their Pennsylvania neighbours  getting a better shake at life, just across the invisible border.
     We thought the article was interesting because Binghamton is adjacent to Susquehanna County in Pennsylvania whose county seat is  Montrose, the place of my grandfather's birth and my great-grandfather's death.   There are all kinds of Newtons, Bolles, Birchards, and Hastings people born and buried in that neck of the woods.
     The area in and around Montrose and the hilly stretches that extend into the Catskills and Adirondacks to the northeast and then southward all the way to Alabama are somewhat homogenous in terms of peoples.   Many of these people were the "first to go West" and many were involved on both sides during the Revolutionary War.
     Montrose is also not far from where Frederich Johanne Limbaugh came into the New World from eastern Germany back in the 1730s.   That, however is a whole 'nother story.

Secession seems to be all the rage....almost communicable.
El Gringo Viejo
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