A Gringo in Rural Mexico: Things That Prove the Point

Monday 5 September 2011

Things That Prove the Point

Sometimes the Old Gringo says and puts down things here in the screed that really seem outlandish. He is not referring to the obvious...."Uncle Elmer and Aunt Bea" stories that are patently and obviously sarcastic take-downs on the quintuple-standard practiced by the oh-so-fair-and professional batch at MCCLATCHYNYTIMESLATIMESNBCCBSWDCPOSTABCREUTERSASSOCIATEDPRESSCNN CARTEL. But at other times there are other basic issues that put the Old Gringo in conflict with what he lumps into the category of "Well. duh....everybody knows that".

Some of the great things that "everybody knows...." include "Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves with the Emancipation Proclamation". This is an issue that should be easy to resolve. Read the Emancipation Proclamation....the very name of document tells all. What gains a man if one man is given his liberty so that the government that grants that liberty....even by that deed....assumes the power to plunge all men into slavery? Further, the document "frees" only slaves under the control of the several States in rebellion, not in the States subdued or non-secessionist.....in other words...it freed the Slaves in States where the Union had no control.

The 'emancipators' won that issue over those who saw manumission as the correct route of improving the lot of the Negro....and we have paid a heavy price ever since...as politicians have run to and fro on the backs of Negroes and over the necks of the White man....depending upon the hour, issue, and location of sundry issues. There has been little or no progress...especially since the effort to "Declare War on Poverty"....
We remember the admonition of the The Nazarene, "Trouble ye not the poor, for they shall always be with you". Those who reveal a conceit so strong that they will to offend against natural law are fools and forever destined to bring violence and disorder upon their works and upon those who reside near them.

The tract included below comes from an article sponsored by a pro-communist public radio station in Wisconsin, heralding another effort to establish "rational social order" . It proclaims that the "National Socialist Movement" is going to protest the mob-violence that occurred recently in Allis, Wisconsin which saw 300 Negro young people mercilessly beat, brutalize, rob, and terrorize families leaving the Wisconsin State Fair ground after a pleasant day of Americana.

The entire thing was and is a set-up. It is all a plan. It has been executed an almost infinite number of times. Raise an issue, create tensions, try and set up a violent White response, and then call in the national and international press (on cue), show the world and America itself that America is a horrible place that holds people down and discriminates....and is,in fact, the only place on Planet Earth that does so...and call for legislation banning guns, hate-speech, using the word chocolate, prohibiting jaywalking on Thursdays in alleys, etc. etc.

     The pro-communist, anti-American forces line up the Black event along with the White response so that...in their opinion...each side will come out to support their "team".    The Blacks are formed around "community organisers"...usually neighbourhood thugs and lower level drug dealers who have good connections with drug wholesalers and local users, normally people found in the ACORN army....and these people work in hand-in-hand concert with the "White Team" troublemakers...normally the Ku Klux Klan which is stronger in the North than the South at this time...has been since the 1930s...or any of a number of groups associated with this silly entity.    The "whites" are usually white-trash, meth-heads, paid a pittance to don Nazi uniforms or satin sheet movie Klan outfits...typical ACORN material...people who are also used as "deputy voter registrars".
      The National Socialist Movement is real in the fact that it is part of the present day consist of socialist enterprises, generally headed by the Ku Klux Klan.   Other groups loosely associated with this Communist Party USA hydra-headed mafia are the Muslim Brotherhood, the Aryan Nations, the Arian (sic) Brotherhood, the leadership of the Service Employees International Union, the American Civil Liberties Union, and a broad group of literally hundreds of tiny clubs, groupings, gaggles, cliques, committees of 3, labour unions, etc.   Lamentably, there are more pictures of Che Guevara in the highest offices of the United States Government now than there are of George Washington....placed there by members of these hundreds of committee, organizations, and movements.
      The National Socialist Movement as anything of substance, however, is not real.   It is the same people running to-day to that banner....and tomorrow over to the pro-Castro, American Pastors for Peace....and the day after tomorrow over to the Cesar Chavez Fair Treatment for Chicanos and Migrants Movement....and next week the same 120 people will be protesting the application for a building permit for a WalMart somewhere because of "workers' rights abuses and brutality against women".....It is all a Commie sham....designed purposefully to set Americans against each other so as to finally facilitate that Bastille Day moment when they can destroy the engine of honour, good, and prosperity from the face of the Earth.
      The replacement for our America will be something similar to Mexico in the 1920s or Cuba in the 2011 period, or the Soviet Union in 1990..."They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work"....
       Follow the logic of these Communist groups operating freely in the United States.   There is strife in El Salvador.   It is the fault of American capitalist imperialism, whereby the American capitalist take products out of El Salvador and pay a pittance for such products and then elaborate those products into more valuable items from which they derive a fortune.   The American Alchemy of producing Gold for white people from the sweat of the darker skinned people....classic oppression.
      So, a "committee" is formed ....just like during the Spanish Civil War....in this case the "Committee in Solidarity with the People of El Salvador" designed to resist the "fascists" in charge of El Salvador who are like Batista, selling favours by bribes to the greedy American degenerates.    They foment disorder, raise money, funnel guns. get a of people killed, blame the Americans and America for that and guess what....the people flee and go to Cuba?   to Russia?   to Red China?   somewhere?    No.   The people flee and go to the United States of America.   Part of this serves the communist cause....but much of it backfires...because the Salvadoreans see that America really is superior culturally, morally, and economically.
      Put in whatever group....Jews, Italians, Japanese, Irish, Mexicans, Eastern Europeans, Africans.....whatever group....and, if they are not given public assistance...that group in two generations is living two to ten generations over the level of their "ancestral" country....be it England, Kenya, Mexico, Canada, or Spain.   That is why the left spends so much effort in the creation of racial and ethnic strife.    That is why Sharpton, Jackson, Wright, and Co. have to repeat, re-try, repeat, whine, demagogue, twenty-eight hours per day, nine days per week, 400 days per years in all 57 States of the Union....Racism, racism,racist, racism, racism, racism, and best of all ...."God Damn America"...."For the first time in my adult life, I am finally proud of my country".....and Oprah says.."What I think she means by that is ......"
     It is all the flailings of a pitiable conspiracy, played by sophomoric elitists who dream of a railroad which they own and where they can control who boards which cars, where the rails are lain, when the trains leave, where they go....their own real live monopoly board where they can be the gods ruling over the little peoples' existence.
    One of the main "Heads of Hydra" is the group found at this link...     http://www.seiu.org/   which should be enough to curl the hair of a bald man.     One of the least of them is the sham group which is a 1st cousin to the SEIU known as the National Socialist (Nazi) Front found at this linkage    http://www.nsm88.org/    .    Be aware that although the group seems to be "anti-communist" they are in fact closely co-ordinated by the general pro-communist movement and used to provoke violence when the "regular white people" failed to respond to deliberate, anti-white racial provocations.    The radio station disseminating the information...."as a community service"....is, of course, a University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee Public Radio outlet which uses significant public funding to "fairly and impartially" enhance a predictable leftist agenda.   They can be found here http://www.wuwm.com/inside/index.php .
      These are troubled times.    We must adhere to our catechism, the beatitudes, and our pledges at baptism.

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White Supremacy Group to Hold Rally in West Allis
By LaToya Dennis
September 2, 2011 | WUWM | Milwaukee, WI

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Members of a white supremacy group plan to rally in West Allis this weekend. The National Socialist Movement says it wants to call attention to what it deems growing violence by black youth against white people. As WUWM’s LaToya Dennis reports, the plans have created a stir.

Organizers are calling Saturday’s scheduled gathering at West Allis City Hall, “In Defense of White America.” The person coordinating the event is Harriet Paletti – a resident of New Berlin and member of the National Socialist Movement. She says the rally is in response to what she views as racially-motivated attacks in the Milwaukee area.
“Honestly, it is about the black-on-white crime. If it was the other way around, there would be plenty of outrage from the black community, while the white community tends not to have any organization standing up for them,” Paletti says.
Paletti says she decided it was time to act after a mob of black youth beat white people leaving the Wisconsin State Fair on opening day. A few weeks earlier, black teens roughed up people in a park following 4th of July celebrations, and another group ransacked part of Mayfair Mall earlier this year.
“Obviously we don’t want our city to be destroyed or mass amounts of deaths. While that may seem a little extreme, they claim that the flash mobs are the start of that. I think that if we don’t take a proactive stance on addressing the racial violence on both sides, you know it’s never going to stop,” Paletti says.
Not everyone believes Saturday’s rally is about stopping the violence. TJ Leyden is a former white supremacist who recently wrote a book about his experiences.
“They always go wherever they can get the most publicity. Wherever there’s an incident where there’s possible racial tension or anything of that nature, they’re going to try to exploit it,” Leyden says.
Leyden says the rally is really about recruiting new members, so he urges protestors to stay away.
“You’re going to have people yelling racial slurs at the racists. You’re going to have people screaming and hollering and calling them stupid and idiot. And all the name calling is just going to help them recruit the young kids who are with them. They’re going to say look, those are the same people who won’t let you be proud of being white,” Leyden says.
Leyden says at these sort of events, it’s typically the counter-protestors who end up getting arrested, not members of the supremacy groups. Charles Padgett is a deputy chief with the West Allis Police Department. He says officers from around the area will work to keep things civil.
“We work with various surrounding agencies here, county and state, and also contacted departments in different cities throughout the country that we were aware had similar types of events or rallies, if you will, occur in their jurisdictions. And we’re taking information from them on how they prepared, and we’re implementing that into our plan to prepare to maintain control and security and the safety of everyone in the city,” Padgett says.
Organizers of the rally say so far, around 50 people have committed to attending. They may find themselves greatly outnumbered by counter-demonstrators.

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I told the people of my district that I would serve them as faithfully as I had done. But, if such was not to be, then you may all go to Hell, and I shall go to Texas!

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And on and on it goes. The more the Government gives away, the more it takes, and the less Americans do for themselves, until finally, like Europe, there is nobody left to do anything, and there is nobody left to pay for, the nothing that is not done.

And, yes, Virginia, there truly is a Santa Clause, and he and Mrs. Clause and their helpers care greatly for the good children of the Planet. So long as there is happiness, kindness, charity, generosity, and the Spirit of Fellowship, Santa Clause will be there, representing those noble things, and he will always move in a spiritual way so as to provoke humankind to goodness.

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El Gringo Viejo: a fair description

Life for El Gringo Viejo began on the Texas-Mexico frontier, near McAllen, Texas literally on a real, live farm. The farmer, as one might imagine, was his father, who had moved with his parents from Gwinner, Sargent County, North Dakota in 1915 - 1916 period, down to the Lower Rio Grande Valley of Texas. (And yes, Virginia, that is the way Sargent County is spelled.)

His parents farmed in an area close to the new community named after its founder, called Ed Couch, in Hidalgo County of Texas. My grandfather is buried in the Weslaco Municipal Cemetery about 10 feet away from his friend, Ed Couch.

After studies, and a stint in the 1st Cavalry, 12th Regiment (mounted), Headquarters Squadron of the United States Army...riding warhorses back and forth along the Rio Grande from the late 1920s and early 1930s. He did not speak much about his service, but we determined that he apparently made rank of 1st Lieutenant.

El Gringo Viejo's Father established his farming and citrus grove-care operation just north of McAllen, Texas. Mother was a housewife and a professional woman....a learned, eloquent, well-read woman.

They were educated people, my father winding up as a Superintendent of a major school/facility of the Texas Department of Mental Health and Mental Retardation in Austin, Texas after a twenty year career in education at the secondary level. He had degrees in History, Psychology, and Education Administration.

El Gringo Viejo is the last of three children, all males. Number one was Milton Birchard, Jr. who was born in 1936 and died in a vehicular incident in 1988. He was narcoleptic. He held a doctorate in geography from Louisiana State University and was head of the Department there for a good while.

Number two is Norman Francis, who was born during the WWII situation in 1942 and became an important Republican political engineer and fundraiser. He served as Executive Director of the Republican Party of Texas during the late 1960s and early 1970s and as Senator John G. Tower's immediate Executive Assistant. The Senator is the Godfather of Norman's first son.

Norman died at age 77 in Austin, Texas and I was one of four eulogists who was chosen to speak at his en memoriam at the Austin Club in downtown most Austin…within sight of the State Capitol.

It was a personal duty and very rewarding

in every way.

My arrival was in 1947, and I was destined to confound my parents and all those around me. Educated entirely in public schools in McAllen, skipping the third grade, and stumbling out of my high school in the upper 90% of a class of 606. I

attended and graduated from Southwest Texas State University (now named Texas State University, unfortunately), being one of the few conservatives to graduate out of the School of Sociology, although my treatment at the hands of my tormentor-professors was not so unpleasant in those days. Emphasis of studies were social demography, and Latin American Affairs with a concentration on Mexico's history and current political evolution, with a minors in History, Geography, and Political Science.

El Gringo Viejo is one of the old, unreconstructed high-church Episcopalians. Politically, he is very fundamentally conservative. He prefers Baseball to football, and considers that baseball with a designated hitter for the pitcher should be called "poofy-ball". Favourite major league team of all times? The Brooklyn Dodgers of the 1950s. It will never be the same again.
El Gringo Viejo's father was born to a Hudson Valley-type girl and a man who had lost two older brothers who served in the Pennsylvania 96th Regiment of Volunteer Infantry during the War Between the States.

The surnamed line (Newton) originated from East Anglia, not far from a place called Washington in northeastern England. They came into Boston Harbour, Massachusetts in 1642 (the 1st voyage of the Mayflower had overbooked), and settled there and in Maine as well as spreading out to Vermont, New York, and Pennsylvania, over the generations for the first 220 years.
Another batch of folks, mainly Anglo, settled in the middle Hudson Valley. There was another group of Celto-Teutonics types from Saxony and Prussia, establishing and settling along the Hudson River from around what is Catskill County northward to Duchess and Rennselaer Counties around a place named Red Hook. The main group came in during the early 1650s.

My mother's people were another English line of long-term Southern and Tennessee people, from the Eastern part of that State, who originally came in during the 1660s through Virginia and North Carolina, and finally into Eastern Tennessee, settling in and around a county to be named Franklin, and helping to establish the city of Winchester. Almost all of these people originated from southwestern England, near the frontier with Wales.

Only recently did we verify that she had many people involved in the service of the Confederacy. One died in northern Mississippi, another Captain Asa Grant, 2nd Tennessee Volunteer Cavalry, was severely wounded and succumbed to his wounds finally in 1869, and another hung around in an Ohio POW camp (Camp Chase) for about 13 months, while three others were either wounded or died in action, including David Limbaugh, Lieutenant, 42 Tennessee Infantry. Another five made it through relatively unscathed.

Almost all were, oddly enough, related to the great-grand uncles and gggg-grandfathers down to gg-grandfathers of Rush Limbaugh. The gggg-grandfather came into the Colonies in the early 1740s from a Prussia and Saxony background, and served in both civilian and military capacities to the Continental government and Army. He was the XO of a Militia Battalion of 3,000 Pennsylvania effectives. They honed their military readiness under the supervision of Gen. von Steuben and someone named Washington at some place called Valley Forge, Pennsylvania.

A grandson of his, Isaac, settled in Tennessee after the War for Independence against King George III. So Rush and I share grandfathers, four generations deep on the American Continent.

It should be stated here that were I to be called to declare, my allegiance would still be with the Southern Cause, although I bear no rancor against those who feel the same about their instinct to maintain the Union. Oddly enough, both my mother (a Southerner) and my father (a true Yankee by blood) believed that we would have remained closer if we had separated, and each side gone the ways of their own yearning, but amicably.

The last of the English (El Gringo Viejo's) line came during the time between the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812. They left County Wicklow, where they had been involved, apparently, in that peculiar Anglo - Scots/Irish practice of making whiskey by the use of peat for fuel. They were also involved in the business of production and processing of various types of grains as well as the production of whiskey, gin, and beer. By their surnames one would know that, while coming out of Ireland, they were actually English, one with the surname of Christian and the wife, Webster. They had, in fact, married in Christ's Church Cathedral, Anglican, in downtown Dublin in 1796. They landed in New York, set up shop in the City among previously arrived relatives, and then in Albany. We have some record that this Christian who married the Webster had actually lived in the colonies, but travelled several times back and forth between the Spirits businesses in England and Ireland and the New World. They wound up as the generations progressed in and around Minneapolis (St. Anthony) & Saint Paul, Minnesota, and Racine, Wisconsin. My particular line went from New York to Alabama, then North Carolina, and then Wisconsin to join up with the rest of the extended family, finally in Minnesota, before the War Between the States.

The Time Line of entry of all lines of my children's blood ancestry on their mother's side in the New World begins in 1578, when Spaniards of mixed Hebraic and Iberian peoples, and others of ancestry from Portugal, Galicia, and southern Spain entered into what was to become Monclova and Saltillo, Coahuila. They are brought under the auspices of the Explorer, Conquistador, and Colonizer Jose Luis Carvajal y de la Cueva, with elements settling in Lampazos and Cerralvo (Nuevo Leon), in Palofox (Texas), and Revilla (Tamaulipas) on the Rio Bravo.
Also, the Count of the Sierra Gorda, Col. Jose de Escandon brought another group of mainly Spanish, Portuguese, and Azoreans in the early 175os, settling along the Rio Bravo (Grande), and then on the north (Texas) side, spreading up to what is now Yorktown, Texas (near and southeast of San Antonio de Bexar, more or less) before and during the Texas Republican period.

My children and theirs are qualified to join the Daughters of the American Revolution, the Sons of Liberty, The Sons of the Grand Army of the Union, The Sons of Confederate Veterans, and the Daughters of the Confederacy. By my side they are 16th generation English Colonial - American and 6th generation Texian. By my wife's side, my children are 23rd generation northernmost New Spain, Texian, and American. Isolating Texas alone, my grandchildren are 15th generation Texian.

LIKE?

Cats, and then dogs.

Fishing, even a bit of bird watching, now and then.

Really good music..antique, old, 1950s and early 1960s rock and roll, classical - Hayden, Mozart, Beethoven, both Strauses, and many others, African tribal sounds en chorus, Mexican bolero...mariachis when they play out-of-doors, some country and quite a bit of the old western (Sons of the Pioneers, the Texas Ploughboys, Marty Robbins "Gunfighter Ballads, for instance.), even some of my own piano works, bagpipes, Enya, marimba, Caribe.

The Gershwins' Porgy and Bess always seemed to me to have been, and remains, a true masterpiece of Americana.

Well maintained Firearms, smooth running small equipment, old autos that respond to repair and upkeep and keep going. Used to have BMWs and so forth, but being old helps tone things down a bit.

Antiques, and antiquities...Meso-American archeology...and religious history. Formal religious services among the Orthodox..as in Anglican, Roman, Orthodox and Conservative Jewish services and celebrations. Hard to find, now.

Overnight radio, rightwing talk radio until it becomes overly tedious and repetitive.

Weather and climate.

And strangely during the past few years,cooking. Not just barbequeing...but actually dishing up gourmet-type stuff...and gardening to a purpose.

We grow a lot of our own spices for our little bed and breakfast and we specialise in flowerng plants, bushes, and trees that attract bees and literally hundreds of species of common to extremely rare birds to our place.

Lifelong Republican, honourably discharged - United States Army (conscripted).

Now drifted into the position of favouring the amicable withdrawal of Texas from the American Union. My grandchildren are 15th generation Coahuila/Texas by my wife and 8th generation Texas by me and my will is to have them answer for the debt of Texas and not for the debts incurred by the National Socialists who have taken possession of the central government in Washington, D.C.

DISLIKES?
Any kind of socialism...bolshevik, national, marxist, social democratic, Trotskyite, progressive, ....and any kind of socialist.

The Ku Klux Klan and such types who figure that they have to hate somebody because of how he/she was born. They are just role players, resucitated by the Communist Party USA in the 1920s, whose members are fueled by a well deserved sense of inferiority.

And almost all social activism.

Almost all labour union officers and almost all labour unions. (There are some exceptions.)

Public assistance of any kind. All welfare and/or charity should and must be privately handled in order to avoid the trap wherein we have fallen, that being the multigenerational slide into the abyss of forlorn hopelessness that is government slavery and dependence. That slide is cheerfully supported by politicians who love to buy votes with other peoples' money.

Lotteries operated by governments.

Litter, filth, graffiti, gangs, and waiting in line for people using food stamps whil'st they argue with the cashier about how they "need" this or that to be covered...when they have three carts with 450 USD of snacks and things we cannot afford because we are in an 'upper income" category.

Church reformers who want to change my church instead of them going to another church and just leaving me alone.

Medications for boys who are over-active, and medications in general.

Lite beer, lite Coca Cola, fat-free, lo-cal, artificial sugars and sweeteners, anything marked "healthy" on food packages, sugar-free, margarine, and driving 23 miles to buy gasoline over there because it is 2 cents per gallon cheaper.

Any government programme designed to help anybody; 94% of the time the programme winds up morphing into some kind of monster. Then liberals and do-gooders will propose another programme, twice as costly, to cure the ills caused by the first cure-all.

Officiousness, and the term "non-profit", as if there is some kind of moral superiority in the failure to produce wealth.

Physical abuse of an animal, an extraterrestrial, a child, slave, woman, or anything like a tractor or power tool, firearm, sewing machine, or an auto, etc.
Loud and/or sharp noises, especially when such noises have no particular purpose.

Wasting anything, from paper towels to Clorox to cake and cookie batter...anything. And....waiting in a line.