A very serious point about marriage between homosexuals

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AND SO THE LINES ARE DRAWN, AND THE LOSERS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DESIGNATED.   Anyone who has any other idea other than the one that is deigned  by the Obsolete Press is, quite frankly, pretty much a useless asterisk on an unread page of a book that will never be published.

 

     So, like Rhett Butler,  El Gringo Viejo joins the fight that has already been lost.   While the aggrieved have been busy worrying only about themselves, the fallout of their activity and demands is already gathering up for a new and even more damaging battle.   El Gringo Viejo is a bit resentful because he has never lifted his hand against any homosexual.  He has never burdened an homosexual with lectures....and his thoughts about the subject have been a closed book.
     We have had association on an amicable basis with perhaps nine such persons who were males.   Eight of them died before the age of 50.   The last one has not been heard from for several years.   Another, who was from an extremely high-born, aristocratic and wealthy colonial family in South Texas, took a pistol one day and blew his "friend's" brain out, all over a wall, and went to Mexico, where he has remained in a place that pertains to some extended family members....a very pleasant and scenic and interesting place.   We have heard nought from or about him for forty years now.
 

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    As the Obama National Socialised Medicine initiative makes the consumers feel better because they know the millionaires and billionaires will finally be forced to pay their fair share and pay for everyone else's free medical services....things do not really turn out the way they sound before we vote for the bill and then begin to read what is inside of it.   Mad Hatter, anyone?

 

     Should equivilancy of homosexual unions be established with marriage as it was known, then Obamacare's Free Medical will require that insurance companies provide "free" coverage for pre-existing conditions.   Such a thing is not actually "insurance" but becomes, obviously, a procedure by with the bulk of other insurers pay the medical bills of another member of the pool who was not measured by the same yardstick in terms of risk.

     Once again...such a thing is not insurance...it is socialised medicine.  Socialised medicine is a programme that is guaranteed to destroy the economy of every country that adopts the model, and it also diminishes the quality and quantity of service.   Also, being free, it happens to be the most costly form of medical service provision, period.   It is a system designed to put Nancy Pelosi in a private hospital for her face lifts...in a building with no name, while the rest of us to to the Bill and Hillary Free Medical Community Health Centre and Veterinary Emergency Intake Facility.   (Closed until further notice - Republican sequestration at fault) 

 

     This is not a real problem or THE real problem, perhaps.   There are very few homosexuals.  Only about half of them are males, and so the HIV problem is somewhat contained in a small universe.  There is another cohort, of course, which is the "urban population" that uses  hypodermic injections of battery acid, Fabuloso, heroin, methamphetines, or whatrever, etc.   For better or worse, those folks do not seem to top out at the actuarial Max-point.   Eighty five candles are not something they are going to have to count....with luck they make it to 35 candles.   We pray for the addicted babies they bring forth.

 

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      Everything stated here is the truth.  It will cause discomfort, and it will raise rancour.  But the words of El Gringo Viejo have not been chosen rashly.  Every effort has been made to be deferential to those of us who have friends, family members,  etc. with different opinions and different orientations.    The issue has essentially destroyed the Episcopal Church in America. And, indirectly, it may well have much greater cultural effect in days not far distant.

      The  rightwingers and traditionalists have a bit of weight to their arguments...but their milk is watery.     Were it whiskey, someone came in last night, poured out half of the contents of the bottles, replaced those contents with water, and made off with the takings.
       What follows is literary fiction....based on true experiences, stories told from the public record, actual observations, and information derived from absolutely unimpeachable sources.    The story is an assembly of true events,  told in such a way that none of the informants will need to be concerned about being "visited"  sometime down the road.
 

 

NOW, HERE IS WHY THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEAL:

 

     This is not something for the future....it is not a "what if"....It is something that is happening now, and it has nothing to do with homosexuals except in the most removed and indirect way.     During these moments while El Gringo Viejo clatters on his keyboard, there is a phenomena occurring, especially in the American West, of people who call themselves Mormons who are living "scripturally".
 

      To be very certain, these people are premeditated, conspiratorial charlatans....similar to and perhaps inter-related with the Irish Travellers....shakedown artists and thieves and extortionists deluxe.   Like the Irish Travellers.... (''Hey mister!  I notice you have a pretty beat up drive-way.  I'm coming from a job I just finished about 9 blocks over, and I was just driving by.  I have enough left over to get you started to-day.  for a thousand bucks I can make this new.   Yeah, give me 500 to-day and you can pay me the rest to-morrow.  I'll start now, and then get the rest of the stuff,   And, I'll leave the truck here overnight so you'll know I'm comin' back.  My brother and one of our men, they're stayin' over at the Oasis Motel  right over there, so I can walk to a hot shower.  Ha..ha ....right now/   Okay, let me get started...thanks for the pre-payment.)

 

     The Irish Travellers are cold-blooded thieves.   They have a matrix of law firms throughout the United States upon whom they can call for bail intervention....should something go awry.  Some OROGs might remember a white girl in a K-Mart parking lot, just a-whailing her 5 year old daughter with HARD blows to the neck, shoulders, and head.   A security guard witnessed the scene and knew the girl had gone on Candid Camera in the parking lot.   He detained her for the police...the police reviewed the film...and promptly arrested the girl for felony battery of a child.    Within three hours, in the town of concern...somewhere in the Mid-West...an attorney from the most prestigious law firm in town came and made bail, AND obtained the right to unite for the mother.    Bail was posted....and the girl and her daughter were never seen again.  Her SUV was found, minus the plates...and it turned out that every possible vehicle identification number had been removed long before.    After some effort, the police did determine that the vehicle had been stolen in California and "scrubbed".  It turned out that the girl was a highly trained jewellery thief and that the little girl....possibly her own daughter....had been trained to be a distractor as well as a "harvester" of gold and diamond jewelry left to the busy hands of a "cutie-pie" little girl.

 

     Now, the people to whom I will refer are worse than the Irish Travellers, and as stated before the two groups might or might not be inter-related.   These people are watching very carefully the progress of  the efforts to forge a legal redefinition of legal marriage.  What is an institution derived from the concepts of Orthodox Sacraments, once it is secularised, becomes a Wonderland that only Alice can tell us about right now.

      These people, found principally in the American West, form patriarchal pods of "committed" people.   They establish what they call a family community.   It is centred around one man, who is usually the oldest person in the family community.    He has a "First Wife" (also known as"Queen" or "Lead Wife").   Moving away from the centre, as if by planetary assignment, are the other wives who have ranking based upon their seniority.   These more common wives serve at the direction of the "First Wife".   These groupings might have as few as four and as many as 20 "regular" wives to be regulated and assigned the various necessary tasks to keep the community operative (cooking, cleaning, laundry, schooling, intensive baby care, etc.).   Upon that matrix, there are concubines  who are brought on as these people move around...usually runaways....usually at the end of whatever rope they were coming to which the end was arriving. 

 

     If the OROG is having a pit stop at the Iron Skillet and he asks the guy to pass over the Tabasco Sauce on the counter, he might notice that in the two booths closest to the counter eating area there are three young women, about the same age, riding herd over 10 or 11 children, all toe-heads,  all between the ages of late diapers to earnestly colouring the colouring sheet the waitress brought.

    "It's good to see so many children who are well behaved."  the OROG comments to the man.

    " Yes, the girls do a good job," the man agrees.

 

     Food is served, eating ensues, and the time come for departure of the "community" members.  The OROG asks, "Are you all from around here or on the road like me?"

      "It's a little of both.   We're doing some outreach at one of the Reservations.  So we'll be camping and meeting and then back in this area in a couple of weeks."

       "Church work?  Social mission?"

       "Yes.   We're Mormons.  (one could sense that something was not quite true about that statement) We've had a long relationship with the Utes and Shoshone nations.   At this point they are giving us more than we give them, I'm afraid," the man smiles personably.  He points generally in the direction of those Reservations.

 

        The women are all dressed in blue denim calf-length straight skirts, yellow pull-overs with a happy face, front and back.   The children...the ones walking...all have khaki bermudas, white socks, and identical tennis shoes.   They are wearing white T-shirts, also with happy faces, front and back.    A convention scale last rest-room stop is executed and the people leave, smiling and waving, sad-eyed, but smiling and waving at the nice man at the counter....the OROG.   He prepares his own exit, leaving a 10 dollar bill with the charge ticket and motioning to the waitress to cover the 7,96 charge...so as to avoid the long line at pay-out.

        The waitress, however, motions for him to wait.   Perhaps the management does not permit her to leave her station.   She comes over walking fast and "shuffling" as if to imitate running, "Sorry"

        "No, I thought I would just avoid the wait and let you pay me out,"

        "No, it's not that.  Did that man ask you for any money?" and she nose pointed to the departing people. 

         "No, not at all.  Why do you ask?" the OROG is puzzled.

          "Hang on, just one second".    She went and payed out the bill, and brought the change.  The OROG refused it, "OH! Thanks...I wish there were more like you.   The thing is those people have been warned not to solicit out in the truck parking area."

          "Soliciting?"

          "Yes, yes, and yes.   They've been warned repeatedly and last night the manager finally told them the next time we find them back there we are going to call the police.   The solicit everything.   The "ladies" ..,"  she made the famous quote gesture,"...they essentially are hustling.   We might have as many as 300 trucks out there, so it's like a small city.   While the girl is doing her business, the story is that the man and other of the girls are stripping anything of value from the trucks...chrome lug nuts, chrome bumpers, any exposed freight on flat-beds that they can carry.  They're really fast, and they figure the angles on the cameras and everything.  The thing is they are the only ones who are always around when the pilfering is going on.    It adds up.   The losses really add up.   We think they've even panhandled and pilfered the regular auto area...there are 300 spaces out there as well, and they use the children for a distraction.  The managers are putting in a bigger coverage system for the parking lot cameras.  These people are like locusts."

 

       "They told me...well, HE told me they were working with the Utes and Shoshone Reservations," the OROG responds with incredulity.

        "Oh, yeah?   Look out there." the waitress once again pointed with her nose.   "Out there" was the little caravan of three, one or two year old minivans loaded with young women and lots of children, and just one toe-headed man, who looked strangely like all the children.   They were turning onto the highway....but in a direction opposite to the location of the Reservations. 

        "But...they're going the wrong way," declared the OROG.

        "That's a big 10 - 4..."

        "Well, I really do thank you for the information". 

 

        About two months later, the OROG is flicking through the vast wasteland and finally settles on an article on AandE, or Discover, or National Geographic, or History.....one of those, and it is about a large extended family living in Phoenix.   Thinking that it was another banal reality show (Swapping Grandmas or whatever), he stopped dead in his remote.   He saw The Man.....the "Mormon"....with several women, some of whom he could recognise.   And other women.....four, five, six, seven, eight, nine....ten younger women around table.

       The narrative among the people in the scene, and then from the off-screen narrator, was about these people who say that they are the "True Mormons"....not  "frauds" like the LDS.  It is a patriarchy and involves a total of 24 people....including a hierarchy of wives, and children who are all fathered by the same man.

       All the women are on complete public assistance.   Some are receiving public assistance of the same kind from multiple sources.  They are working an ingenious "carousel" of being the home when everyone else is absent so that she can show that she has been abandoned and  has no way to feed or care for her three children.

     There are  three houses within two blocks, one from the other.   There is a late-model Winnebago at a nicer trailer park about a mile away  where the Patriarch stays.  The total take, including food stamps, housing assistance, medicaid eligibility, and other "benefits"....plus the organised pilfering, shoplifting, and "finding" things of value...while at the same time stripping the rental houses...fancy rental houses....of anything that could be pawned or scrapped comes up to well over 450,000/yr USD, in pilfering cash, stamps, and welfare payments.

 

      There is a scene towards the end of the program in which "The Emergency" is announced.   That means that everyone must pack up, load up, and head for the hills.  That which might incriminate and/or identify routes of flight and destinations is taken first, then anything of pawnable value, and of course, cash money.    All vehicles that will be used are to leave in different directions and meet up in such and such place on such and such time and date.   Of the six vehicles they have, only four will be used, and the others will be vandalised and rendered valueless....they are stolen.   Within 30 minutes, all and everything are gone.

 

     Apparently neighbours have called Child Protective Services and/or the constabulary.   Children are not in school, you know.   They are under discipline....but there is no pedagogy. No home-schooling, no visiting teachers.   Some stupid neighbour women shouted at some of the second level wives that "You people are going to get yours to-morrow!!  We know what you're up to!!"

 

     And off they went into the darkness.   Within 30 minutes, all gone.   Gone...Poof. A well practised drill had been put into place and successfully executed one more time.

 

   But soon, there will be fewer problems.  The Patriarchal Family Community with one patriarch, with 20 wives and  50 unsupportable children will be found to be just another form of "marriage".....and the AFDC, food stamps, disabilities, handicapped children's SSI, Medicaid, rent subsidies from the housing authority, etc. etc. etc.   all become mandatory, because these people are all married.   Little difference will it make that they call  themselves "Mormons" falsely.  They practise no form of Christianity or any other denomination or Religion as such was understood, say in 1960.   It will soon cease being a weird-world cablevision special report with the children's faces and the under-aged "wives" faces blurred out.

 

     BUT PLEASE BE AWARE.   AS THE KEYSTONE OF THE CONCEPT OF MARRIAGE AS A SACRAMENT IS WIGGLED OUT OF PLACE BY THE SELF-ABSORBED 666 PEOPLE, OTHER 666 PEOPLE WILL RUSH TO THE MARGINS OF SOCIAL PSYCHOSIS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OBLIGATORY ACCEPTANCE AND THE FREE MONEY.   THESE PEOPLE ABOVE DESCRIBED ALREADY NUMBER ALMOST 10,000 ''PATRIARCHAL COMMUNITIES''.

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David Larson, writing in Spectrum Magazine, a journal of religious, philosophical, and cultural matter, observed as follows in 2008 of the events surrounding  the Yearning for Zion pseudo-Mormon group in West Texas who finally refined the above scenario into an industrial grade legal welfare rip-off......IN 2007!!!!   TO WIT:

I might have finally figured out why I experienced such mixed feelings while watching on television the authorities take into protective custody 416 or so children of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints who lived on the Yearning for Zion ranch in west Texas. Once again, we may have done more harm than good by treating a chronic problem as though it were an acute crisis.

Not everyone agrees that polygamy is a problem. University of Chicago economist and Nobel laureate Gary S. Benson commented on this issue in 2006. In the United States and similar nations, he wrote:

Women choose their partners, and refuse to marry men who [sic] they do not want to marry, regardless of their parents' feelings or the ardour of suitors. In this world, a woman would not have to enter into a polygamist household if she would not want to. Would-be polygamist men would have to persuade second or third wives that it is worth it, because of their wealth, good looks, kindness, or in other ways. If she is willing to become an additional wife, why should laws prevent that?

Until sometime last week, I agreed with such thinking. But I began to change my mind as I watched what struck me as the languid forms, vacant stares and excessively measured words of some of the women from Yearning for Zion. The more I considered these scenes, the more I developed a different line of thought.

In brief, here it is: (1) polygamy tends toward extreme patriarchy; (2) extreme patriarchy tends toward tyranny against women; and (3) tyranny against women tends toward the physical and sexual abuse of children. The idea is that these tendencies are not perplexing happenstances; they are built into the very dynamics of polygamous unions.

The more wives a man has the less power they have. A home with, let’s say, six wives and twenty-four children, is likely to function more like a monarchy than a democracy in order to prevent unworkable chaos. Even an oligarchy is likely to need a very strong “Enforcer,” and almost always this will be the man. Polygamy is almost impossible without extreme patriarchy.

But this is only one part of the equation. Another is that husbands and wives in monogamous unions often foster more desirable behavior in their spouses by providing all kinds of positive and negative inducements. But a patriarch in a polygamous union rarely has to cope with such frustrating complexities. If one wife is upset about something, instead trying to understand and correct what is troubling her, he can easily turn to another. This robs all the wives of much power. They would do well to join forces and engage in collective bargaining; but apparently this rarely happens. Extreme patriarchy easily becomes tyranny against women.

Many say that polygamous households are especially dangerous places for children. Although their mothers appear to take excellent care of them when they are young, their vulnerability often spikes once the girls become sexual targets and the boys sexual threats. Outsiders often complain that the women do not provide their pubescent children adequate protection. But their feelings of helplessness are not entirely misplaced. They actually possess very little power, and this is why the abuse of their children is unsurprising. This is one of the inherent dynamics of polygamy.

We know that women do not always enter polygamous marriages as adults who exercise free, informed, and mentally competent consent. But my growing objection to polygamy goes deeper than this. It is that the inherent dynamics of polygamous unions make them tend toward tyranny against women and the abuse of children, even when this is not intended. We can count on such things happening whenever the power of people cannot be challenged and checked. Even the most admirable polygamous unions allow men too much uncontrolled power. This is the big danger.

In view of considerations such as these, I have come to disagree with positions like Gary S. Benson’s. Laws and other public policies that discourage the practice of polygamy without causing more harm than good are necessary. By laws I mean ones like those in Texas that do not legally recognize polygamous unions and deny marriage licenses to women who are less than eighteen years old, or sixteen with formal parental consent. Men and women who are convicted of violating these should receive the maximum penalties.

By other public policies I mean things such as zoning decisions, building permits, property tax codes, required school attendance, health and safety laws, welfare rules, and the omnipresence of state and federal officers of the law. It probably should not be the goal of such measures swiftly to eradicate polygamy but over time to make it too expensive in every way to practice.

For more than one hundred years, those of us who live in the United States have swung between marshalling excessive coercive power against those who form polygamous unions and a malign neglect that allows this chronic problem to worsen until it explodes in an acute crisis. We need stronger, steadier, and subtler approaches, ones that maintain constant and uncomfortable pressure on polygamists without requiring the women and children to suffer more than they already do.

It is difficult to imagine that the authorities in Texas had no idea that those at Yearning for Zion had long been breaking the law by practicing polygamy and allowing statutory rape, partly because there are only a few thousand people in the entire county. We also know that the construction projects at Yearning for Zion did not always conform to the pertinent requirements, especially sanitation and environmental protection mandates. But the authorities did very little to enforce the relevant laws and public policies. Instead, at long last, they allowed an unidentified “reporter” of physical and sexual abuse to trigger an acute crisis. The result is that we now observe hundreds of women and children tearfully moving back and forth between protective custody and the ranch.

But we rarely see the men. Why should we be surprised?

 

 

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Finally, homosexuals who really want a solution to their desire for a union should consult a good attorney, form an interlocular contract assigning what is community property and what is property apart, and assigning familiar authority, for hospitalisation, for instance, and other such matters...joint banking, etc.  The Interlocular Contract of Agreement would be entered with the County Clerk (in Texas) and/or with the District Court Clerk.  It would have the same points of obligation and agreement that might be found in any well-constructed Will and Testament.

 

El Gringo Viejo

 

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Gun Crimes? Gun Running? To-day, let's touch a few bases.

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     It is such a pleasure to watch, read, and listen to the Obsoleteers within the leftist ranks, playing with a Coaches's Playbook -  Six basic plays to run over  and over until no defense will ever believe that you will run them again.   We strive to-day do do a quick rundown on various of the sundry sophistries that pop up from the Field of Nightmares.

 

(1)   Starting with Race:

 

      Racial and ethnic baiting is the forte of the Saul Alinsky people.  No one wants to be called a racist, so the white fools will bend over backwards to appease any demand, no matter how ridiculous in order to avoid the charge.    Problem?   Yes.   The Luciferin prophet confesses within his own charge that Americans, in their overwhelming majority, are good people of good will.   You who are Luciferians recognise the fact when you take advantage of the fact.

Chalk up one for El Gringo Viejo

 

 

(2)  America and the world:

 

     We are told that only America is a racist place.  Slavery, mistreatment of the Indians, mistreatment of the Mexicans....it is just a nightmare how historically racist America is and how racist it remains....When will they ever learn?   How many roads must a man walk down?

    But, we go to Africa and find that Africa is a septic tanque, full of racism, ethnic and racial and religious combat and discrimination.   Most of the living situation is abysmal.   It was during the time of the sacking of villages to extract likely candidates for the slave auction in Charleston and/or New Orleans.   It remains so to-day.  There was a brief episode when the continent was under colonial rule and administration that there was relative peace, and a functioning formula for material improvement among the nations, both Tribal and European.

     It appears that the best of times were those provided under the Union Jack, and during the Victoriata. The other colonial "masters'' did lesser to equal good and bad as the Brits, depending upon the season and lunar stage, but the Brits were steadier of hand and measure.

 

     To this day, brutality against women is the norm, not exception.  The practice of Paternity is still a novel concept in many, perhaps most places.   The despair of socialism is the theme of almost all post-Colonial Africa. 
      Socialism is the best method to invoke if one wants to prove that income redistribution can be more efficient.   Everyone will have the same...which is next to nothing, plus whatever crumbs the ones in charge allow a person to have.  Fidel has used socialism as an effective cloak to hide massive personal enrichment, as did Hugo, and do almost all hypocritical leftist leaders.
 

     If one wishes to find out who the elite are, simply determine who has control of all the guns in the dump that practises distilled  pure socialism.     The material state of affairs for the entire Continent of Africa is such that Mexico, with one-eighth of the population of all the nations of Africa, has a slightly higher Gross National Product than all the continent combined.   The numbers are even more somber if one considers only sub-Saharan Africa.  And discrimination?   The tribes of Africa did at least as well as the white tribes of Europe in hating whomsoever might live next door.

 

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Pope Fracis
How can an Italiano
be a "Latino"?

      The leftists are quick to point out that they are the only true judges of what is the correct racial alignment and outcome.   The left also ascribes within its job description that they are the only ones who are entitled to determine what a "real Negro" or a "real Latino" and what they should and must do to have and maintain the Left's permission to be a "real Negro" or a "real Latin".   And now we are at that point to close point (2).

     We were treated to a brief clip of a very wise pinko informing a bunch of dull cracker Obsolete Press reporters....who were nodding, while drooling, with serious looks of apt consideration of the high minded pontifications of a braying fool....while that informant, the braying fool...is advising the assembled that the Bishop of Rome is not a real "Latino".

     "You see. Andy....He jist ain't no real meskin.  He don't got no Chaygavara shirt....he don't got no street cred and barrio-bility.  He ain't got no scars from fightin' the man and gittin' down with the cirrus community organisin'.    Aint got no picture with Fidel...no picture with his left fist high in the air, clenched with the hatred caused by suffering discrimination from the white-patties.  Nope...ain't no Latino, bato."   Of course, what is really meant is that the Bishop of Rome is that great and fine rarity -  He is a conservative, culturally and ecclesiastically, which is a rarity for a Jesuit.   The Jesuits invented the heretical notion of "Liberation Theology"....but they also have a large number of humble, articulate, monk-like, well-studied sociological and philosophical and religious and historical and overall academic geniuses.

      So then, let's see.   He is not Latin, but he has almost pure Italian ancestry?

     He learned Italian, Latin, Spanish, English, French, and several other languages without the benefit of bi-lingual education and Head Start.   But, some guy named Cortez ( who thinks he is "Latino" because he wears a Chez Gevara shirt and has  a Semitic surname commonly associated with Jews who came into Iberia during the Mohammedan Invasion of the VIIth Century as quartermasters of the Islamic Armies) has decided that an Italian type person is not Latin.   Then who were the dumboes who spread the Latin language throughout the Mediterranean World, and then some?   And did the Latin speaking Romans waste their time making the neo-cave dwelling Brits learn to start the process of turning their language into one of the "Romance Languages".
 

     That did not make Brits "latinos"....but it did demonstrate that "gente latina" did have a profound impact on huge swaths of the Tierra Firma.    So pardon il Gringo Anziano !!   And be certain Cortez, that the present Roman Catholic Bishop of Rome...IS LATINO!!!!   Neither he nor you can change that.   You can be wrong and you can say what you wish, but if you say that, in racial in ethnic terms he is  not Latino, then you are flat our and very, very WRONG!

    The Truth cannot be redefined by a fool, especially a marxist fool.   What would one expect of a person opining in the Huffington Post, anyway?  So, now, chalk up (2) for El Gringo Viejo.

   (3)      If the Left is so terribly concerned that there are people wandering around loose who have firearms...in their houses....in their autos....in their offices and businesses, then why don't they get some practice in hating people who illegally traffic in weaponry and in the illegal international firearms and ammunition market.  The most dangerous Cartel there is, it seems, in selling weapons that can be jerry rigged by dolts to be fully automatic, without fear of prosecution in the United States of America is the Cartel de la Secretaria de Justicia.....aka The Justice Department, especially the Secretary of the Justice Department, Eric Holder and much of the Civil Rights Enforcement division, and the ATF and E.

     They have run more guns, lied about it more, and set up over 400 Mexican innocents to be killed by their illegal gun running activity more than any common, law abiding American firearms owners as individuals or as groups of individuals.   So...Chalk up another victory for El Gringo Viejo, easily defeating the posturing of the lying, marxist Attorney General Eric Holder, and his demagoguing boss who runs to the teleprompters to lecture responsible American gun owners while his own government is putrid with criminality and perjury, and while his Nirvana, Chicago, Illinois chalks up gun-violence rates that would make even Caracas, Venezuela jealous.

     (4)     And the Fourth is like unto the Third, demonstrating that lying marxists who are as brazen as they are mendacious....can paint themselves into desperate corners very easily.  As it becomes clear that the Benghazi affair might well have been Obama, Holder, and Clinton selling arms privately to the "secular Freedom Fighters" in Syria....in something so sleazy that Americans could not begin to think of such depravity....and that they lost control of the issue when Islamist psycho-militants decided to put an end to the practice of American politicians selling off stashes of Qadiffi's small and medium arms to non-Islamiic, pro-communist "freedom fighters". 

    We know the Ambassador did not know about the deal, but the Turkish freighter captain did know.   He was very aware that the munitions were to be delivered to Syrian anti-government guerillas.   It would be doubtful if he would have known that they were "secular".   The word "secular" is a buzz-word throughout the Middle East for marxists or self-styled communists.   They are the ones who fight dictators and kings as the like and then liberate the people to something like what exists 90 miles south of Key West.

     When we depose dictators and kings, it seems like there are kooks like the Persian ayatollah beheading committee and their puppet Ahmadinijad....or something like the Ortega Brothers and the Sandinistas who take over.

 

       There is certainly a stained hand mired into this Benghazi thing.  It wreaks of the torn up note inside of an unfound briefcase in Vince Foster's White House office a week after his suicide.   Somehow the police had failed to take note of the briefcase, and therefore could not have known about the poorly forged letter inside of said briefcase.   It was torn into 25 or 30 roughly equivalent pieces.   When assemble...why Glory be!....it turned out to be a "suicide note" from Vince Foster.   Now, just how did we overlook that there briefcase, Mr. Police Sergeant Investigation Man?   It must have been there the whole of the live-long day, and just everybody overlooked that there briefcase just a'sittin' there like a briefcase on a desk might.

 

     Faithfully replicated by Wikipedia...not a rightwing blog....the WonderWoman Sir Edmund Hillary....who had already forced the number three man at the Justice Department to take a fall for her...OR ELSE....just couldn't have had anything to do with this poor boy's self-destruction, NooooeeeeSireeee.   Lawdy...why Mizz Hillary....she just tripped and concussioned her haid...right after she had real bad stomach flu....an' then she was up there writin' a note, tryin' to write like it was somebody else doin' the writin', you know....

 

Will (Sir Edmund) Hillary's "approval rating" stand at 63% when the low-information voters are told that this "unfound note" was turned over to the police..... 30 hours after they had already investigated the office and yellow taped it as a crime scene?   To wit:

 

A suicide note of sorts, actually a draft of a resignation letter, was found torn into 27 pieces in Foster's briefcase after his death. The note is clearly shown to be missing a piece, therefore it was 27 of 28 pieces. The note was not initially found upon the original search of the briefcase in which it was cleared of its effects. It was found on July 26, 1993 and held by the White House for some 30 hours before it was turned over to USPP investigators. The full text of Foster's note was as follows:

"I made mistakes from ignorance, inexperience and overwork
I did not knowingly violate any law or standard of conduct
No one in The White House, to my knowledge, violated any law or standard of conduct, including any action in the travel office. There was no intent to benefit any individual or specific group
The FBI lied in their report to the AG
The press is covering up the illegal benefits they received from the travel staff
The GOP has lied and misrepresented its knowledge and role and covered up a prior investigation
The Ushers Office plotted to have excessive costs incurred, taking advantage of Kaki and HRC
The public will never believe the innocence of the Clintons and their loyal staff
The WSJ editors lie without consequence
I was not meant for the job or the spotlight of public life in Washington. Here ruining people is considered sport."
 

Sourced from Wikipedia informational page concerning oddities about the Vince Foster Death.   We urge that  the OROG think of Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton while going over the disclaimers in the suicide note...."I made.....I did not.....to my knowledge....and that all of the matters listed were those that involved Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton.   Had he waited a bit, he could have included that "I had nothing to do with the disaster at Mount Carmel in McClennan County, Texas.

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     The above is placed for the attention of all, so as to remind all concerned that Hillary
has more than enough 'splainin' to do for her and Lucy, and Vivian and everyone.   We have to remember that all these principals...Obama, Hillary, Eric Holder have made a business and a career of lying by being too cute by half.    When caught, they deny or say it is the fault of Bush, a right-wing conspiracy, or the Tea Party or racism or barbershopism, or God knows whatever.

Now, however,  point number four is a home run for El Gringo Viejo.   Or as they say in what used to be baseball...Four for four.

El Gringo Viejo

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Sadat, Mubarak...Muslims, Jews: All victims of Muslim Brotherhood

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Folks, sometimes El Gringo Viejo has to stand back look at it clearly.



 Almost spooky, this early
portrait of T. E. Lawrence
and its simililarity to the
likeness of Peter O'toole

   To begin this blog entry, and end it quickly....at least as quickly as a long-winded blowhard can be quick, there was no "Palestinian displacement" .   There were swarms of people who drifted in and around the areas connecting the Bedouin Tribal areas, and inside of, and in and out of, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, the Gaza Strip, the Suez-Aqaba deserts, as well as other areas of north of the Sahara Africa.    But by the time of the twixting of World Wars I and II, large numbers of Jordanians, Lebanese, Cypriot Orthodox, and people of various political persuasions....democratic, monarchical, communist, social democratic, anti-colonial, pro-colonial, and many, many other groups were converging on the ancient land marked on the maps of the day as "Palestine".   This was because the area was a mecca (so to speak) for intrique, investment, traffick and trading.   There was also a intresting remnant of the "Chosen People", established as long time traders, shop keepers, antiquities dealers, "brokers" of "you name it", and even agriculturalists.  Many, if not most or all, were on a friendly and/or functional footing with the Arabs.  Friendships between Hebrews and Mohammedans were not commentworthy due to their commonaility.  
   

     We are led to believe that the Palestinians are a sub-group of the Arab sub-race of the Caucasian race, somehow.  But it is not.    It has been implied that the Palestinians are the Philistines of the Old Testament.   They were the ones who tormented, and who were tormented by, Samson, weren't they?

The ever-enigmatic, Lt. Col.
T.E. Lawrence, as he
appeared in 1918

     The word "Palestinian" pertains to that which is relevant to a geographical area known as Palestine.   It is an area pretty much contained within and around another geographical area known as Judea and Israel.

     Of the Arabs, we refer you to the movie about  and the works of T.E.  Lawrence, and to his peculiar, incredible-but-true, life among the Arabs and lesser tribes, such as British and French politicians, throughout the area of Palestine.   Much of Gone With the Wind and much of Lawrnce of Arabia tell substantially and essentially true stories, both the literary works and the related motion pictures.

     T. E. Lawrence's book, Seven Pillars also provides excellent insight into the concept of "Palestne" and "Palestinian" up to the period of the arrival of Ben Gurion and the Israelite Zionist returnees to Moses's Land of Milk and Honey at the end of World War II.   Lawrence's entire episode in Arabia, as an archaeologist, as an intellectual analysts, and as a passive spy for British intelligence during the time leading up to the shots heard 'round the World, the assassination of   Archduke Francoise Fernando von Habsburg, Prince of The Austria-Hungarian Empire.  shot that was heard round the world, and his wife.  (Of interest, in a Kennedyesque twist, Francoise Fernando von Habsburg was the brother of  Franz Josef, the Emperor of Austria - Hungary and Maximilian I, Emperor of Mexico, who was executed by Benito Juarez Garcia, President of Mexico and Commander in Chief of the Republican Governmental Armies of Mexico).

T.E. Lawrence, 1912 at
an archeological site
in northern part
of Syria

     As things deteriorated in Europe and the Middle East, T. E. Lawrence continued his studies both of the area's archeology and the nature of roads, railroads, and watering holes (oasese) of Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and.....Palestine.  The only great groups of Arabs and non-Arabs in and around Palestine had their sheiks or were Greeks like Cleopatra, or Kurds, or other such known groups.    Lawrence and his work-mates would have referred to the areas as Ottoman (Turkish, Kurdish, and Armenian), Trans-Mesopotamia (Syria and Iraq) and the "Levant" which is the trans-Jordanian area along with Palestine.  The last-named districts were nominally under the possession of Turkey of the Ottomans in those times.   The Ottoman Turks were Muslim but they did not mix well with the "rag-heads" as they referred to the Arabs....(the term did not originate with Bubba and Jethro down at the bar)....nor did they get along with the wiry and wily Sheiks of various small but significant Bedouin tribes nor with the various Emirs of the lands deeper into the Suez-trans Red Sea lands.   The Emirs composed a solid block of tiny emirates that were independent of one another but which could and did, in large part, unite quickly to form a common diplomatic and military front....a formidable one.

    But!  and allow us to quickly restate...the people to whom we refer in these times as "Palestinians' are called such, not because of the OROGs's ignorance or El Gringo Viejo's ignorance, but because of the wilful transmittal of terms by the leftist American and international Obsolete Press.   It started with Abdul Gammel Nasser who allowed himself to be a satrap for the Bolshies in the 1950s...selling himself and the Egyptians to the Kremlin for a few pieces of silver and a useless pharaonic pyramid known as the Aswan Dam on the Nile.  The Bolshies somewhat skillfully and somewhat by accident managed to tap into the animosity being expressed at the Jews du jour....who happened to be Jews.



900,000 people fled the coming war to
 drive the Jews into the Mediterranean
 Sea.  "To-day we annihilate the
  Jews, and to-morrow we
 return toPalestine. 

    Hordes of displaced people, some involved with the Ottoman rule, others displaced by the anti-colonial movements, especially in Algeria....and even Libya flocked into the trans-Suez and eastern Egypt and the Gaza Strip.   Truth be told....not one Arabian country wanted these people around.   The Brits, French and the various heads of the strangely shaped new settlement countries in the old Ottoman Empire began to settle on lines, capitals, and the new satraps, aka "royal houses"...and/or "political leaders with realistic orientations,"  but no one wanted the swirling unwashed masses.

    One place where there was some acceptance of Arabs living somewhere was in the new Zion....in the Jewish Republic of Israel.   To be sure, these were long-time Arabs with a record of co-operation and/or at least acceptance of Jews as neighbours.   They would have been the people of trades, shops, dealers and brokers of antiquities, and professionals...such as doctors, teachers, and archaeological analysts.

     This was the backdrop to the events before 1950 when the Arab countries surrounding the newly formed State of Israel all decided to express the will of the people of the region and drive the Jews into the Mediterranean Sea.    A simultaneous offencive was launched by forces totalling populations roughly 50 times the size of the population of Israel.   The Arabs living in the new Zionist State were warned to leave, because soon, the entire country would be laid waste so as to purify it from the contamination of Jew sandals.

     Those who chose to leave, perhaps were being reasonable, because no one would like to be purified after first being lain waste.    And, any reasonable Gentile even would have had to bet on the great knights of the desert, scimitars glistening in the rays of the crescent moon.   Those scimitars would have come at the Israelis in the form of French, British, and Russian armaments...including tanks, MIGs, all nature of mortar and artillery, while the boots on the ground favoured the Arabian Putsch to be a 15 to 1 advantage.  Everybody knew that Jews could not fight and even worse....would not fight.

     When it was all over....in a matter of days...the entire Arabian Nights story had become something more like arabian nightmares.  All the armies assaulting Israel had been either destroyed or almost destroyed.   A couple of the armies were a legitimate AAA minor league rating...while the Jews had not even played a game at semi-pro level.   It was a dark humiliation from which most of the  Arab world has not recovered...and perhaps  will never recover.

     For so long as the Israelis do not become flabby and effeminised as have the  Americans and the British in these early moments of the new millennium there is a chance that the little country can continue to play the role of David against it surrounding potential Goliaths.   Indications are that such an even might well be underway...with more and more Israeli youth opting to find ways of avoiding military service.

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      After this war, the 900,000 people who had left Israel to await its destruction, still wait.  They are lethargic, serfs of deranged religious extremists.  Their population is comprised in large part by parents who celebrate the "success" of a son or daughter by how many Jews he or she killed with the homicide vest blew up in the bus.



Two Draculene Hags for the price
of several millions and billions
of other peoples' money
and futres

      Sixty years have gone by, and the camps, hovels, and labyrinth of bunny trails connecting hovels made of cinder block in what had been intended to be, at best, temporary facilities for a month or two....now celebrate the birth of another potential homicide bomber great-grandson.   Four...even five generations....occupy these dismal places.   They live by taking....having essentially been on welfare the entire time.   The live as vassals of the bloodthirsty religious nuts of Hezbollah and Jamas....surrounded completely by moral and material corruption, decadence, and dysfuntion.    The people are essentially held hostage, even allow themselves to be held hostage, by one mafia that is secular, marxist, Jew-hating, America-hating and that controls hundreds of millions of dollars of "charity'' contributions.   Four million and some odd people now....still waiting still waiting to go back and destroy the buildings, farms, industries, schools, shops, and other structures and places put into place by a small group of people who apparently have more intelligence, concentration on objectives, and willingness to move in a positive direction.

     AND.....These "refugees" are also held hostage by severely mentally ill religious maniacs who will murder a 10 year old girl because she was taken to Tel Aviv for a kidney transplant.   She was tortured and stoned and hacked to death because she was "unclean" being part Jew and only part human.   These things go on day in and day out in the refugee camps.....And the proof...the slob, bleach blonde, prostitute looking widow of Yassir Arafat...one of the greatest of all charlatan....is still working through the two billion and then some dollars that he raked off the top and the bottom of every farthing that came into the PLO treasury.   And his hag wife is in a corner suite in the Ritz in Paris, going shopping every day.   She bought a villa somewhere not far from Cannes a year or two ago, and it is said that degenerate fiestas go on non-stop during her stays there.  She has been run out of Tunisia and essentially from Gaza by politicians and social elements, ostensibly (1) for marrying the Tunisian President's brother or brother-in-law without the necessary protocols. (2) for not cutting in old friends and others on the honey pot of shekels left by Arafat's grimy fingers handling the money for the PLO....and (3) for generally putting plenty of flesh on the bones, so to speak, about how the Arafats always did live large, by her very public displays of hedonism and self-indulgence.

     At the time  of Yasser Arafat's death, he was giving his wife something in the order of 100,000 USD per month for her personal walking around money in Europe.  She stayed for a year, taking out either one-half or one entire floor of a top-line hotel in Paris, on the Champs Elysee at the cost of 9,000 USD per night.   She later bought a flat on the Champs Elysee, within less than a stone's throw from the Arc du Triumph.   Just to be on the safe side, she also has bought a mansion in the area of Paris associated with the titled people.   She is French, schooled in a fine Roman Catholic college,  converted to Greek Orthodox, and then to Islam, and now to consumption and profligacy.

 

     The wealth is nothing negative in and of itself, of course.  The only problem with the entire issue is that it is  money that is essentially stolen.   Like Hillary, making false billings at the Rose Law firm in Arkansas,  both women are certain that anything that they want, is theirs.  Mrs. Arafat had her one and only child in Paris in a private hospital that cost 2,000 dollars a night just for the hotel part of the deal.  PLO money paid for it.  She stated that she was not heroic enough to have a baby surrounded by all the filth in Gaza.   Rather much like Hillary snarling about how her socialised medicine plan would leave a lot of small businesses in the lurch, and probably cause them to shut down, she snipped,"I'm not responsible for making all those little under-capitalised businesses run correctly".    You know....like baking cookies.

 

     All of the people in all of the refugee camps surrounding Israel are willing prisoners and lambs.   Were it to have been 140,000 Japanese Americans interned in a detention facility, the camps would be clean, flowers, social co-operation would be the rule, there would even be prosperity.    The Vietnamese refugees who came over to the United States after the US Congress sided with the communist North Vietnamese and cut off military support for the South.   The Vietnamese who came here, spread their wings and flew high in almost all cases.

All the people who come here and who stay away from welfare and "help" from the government, prosper.   But the refugees surrounding Israel, they rot, lob missiles, moan, and allow themselves to be pin~atas for the various mafias who enslave them.   They deliver their children to the ghastly schools that program the children to be unthinking robots, much like our public schools here in the United States have become, and then hope that they can raise up a child who can break through security and blow up a school bus in the Israeli sector of Jerusalem.   Makes a mother proud.....?????

 

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     So, Obama's speech to the students in Cairo in 2009, to build a new day...had no effect on anything.   The Muslim Brotherhood had already scheduled the riots and disorders that would bring the Brotherhood to power and get rid of Old Mubarek.   After two years, Egypt has changed from a peculiar, somewhat tolerant functional soft dictatorship, to a hell-hole with people talking seriously and sincerely about the necessity to blow up the Sphinx and the Pyramids of Giza, and all the Pharoanic monuments of Lexor and the entire run of the Nile.  The oppression decried by the Obsolete Press during the rule of Mubarek, has of course, become much worse with gangs of "extra-official" thugs from the Brotherhood tormenting Coptic Orthodox and "undesirable Muslims".

     
     Obama's show from the last week was just as pointless, worse in a way, when he doesn't have the guts to go before the Knesset and speak to the representatives of all the Israeli nation...but chooses instead to go before a hand-picked group of marxist  university students who are members of known progressive, marxist, and other extreme leftist organisations.  His failure to go to the Wailing Wall was strictly because he wanted to comply with the Islamist extremist notion that non-Muslims should never be allowed to touch the structural parts of the Dome of the Rock.

We think Obama would have been well served to review the contents of this linkage, regarding the status and treatment of Arab Israelis, and how many would prefer to live under the rule of the Muslim Brotherhood, Hezbollah, or Hamaz.



http://www.arabisraeliconflict.info/arab-israel-facts/fact-1-jewish-history-israel

 

     His speech urging the "Israeli young people" to reject the distrust and inertia of the past, is reflective a mental dullness that defies description.   The utter shallowness and failure to engage intellectually with the hard facts that the refugees in the camps tore down everything in the last exchange of land for peace.   Destroyed it.   It is still a garbage heap full of litter, where once there had been prosperity.    Like Obama, and all communist, and marxist negotiators the Palestinian authority is not going to agree to anything, even if it is what they ask for, because the thugs who run the place will lose their money, and their control over the slugs and dregs who apparently wish to be cannon fodder, slaves, and victims of mafias and tyrants.  The islamist extremists carry it just a bit further;  they say, "What difference does it make when or where, we are going to kill every one of you anyway."

 

     Please also note, finally that all the Arabs who stayed in Israel, before that first war, when the dust settled, they went out opened up their stores, showed up at work and are citizens of Israel.   They prosper, argue with the Jews, get along, have Jews who are friends...vote, and even serve in the Knesset, and have held high portfolios in the Israeli government....more proof of the the nature of truth.

El Gringo Viejo

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Stated again...and El Gringo Viejo will probably bring it up again

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It will be said many, many times.   By this speaker.  Written many times before, and a few hundred more times, in what is left of the future for this Cosmic traveller....

 

      We grew up around guns;   our house out on the north edge of McAllen had a 12-gauge, single barrel, HR, single shot.   It had a winchester .410 shotgun, single shot, a .22 hi-standard 9 shot revolver with a 6 inch barrel, a .45 semi-automatic Colt 1911 military, Phillipine era service pistol, and a couple of very accurate CO2 powered,  .22 calibre Crossman pellet rifles, and my mother's little .22 "ladies rifle", a bolt action, single shot barely legal barrel.

     My mother was famous for bing able to shoot white-winged dove in flight with her little rifle...hit them on the fly, she did....without aiming down the sights.   My father could hit a jackrabbit at full run, at 30 yards,    Our workers from Mexico thought that jackrabbit was something edible.  My mother thought that such fare was "animalistic".   My oldest brother and I thought it was pretty good...along with the possum and carp the men would sometimes stew up or fry in lard and strange herbs on a "comal" ....(kind of a Mexican wok, made from a plough disc)....My mother never knew about our "special diet" out in back where the men stayed.

 

     The parking lot at McAllen High School was full of autos.  There were 606 graduating seniors in 1964.  The four-grade secondary was the only secondary in town in those days.  None of the 17 incorporated cities in the four-county Magic Lower Rio Grande Valley, nor their un-related but generally centro-contiguous independent school districts had more than one high school.  Not even Brownsville, the largest of all.  McAllen was the third biggest, and according to everyone in the Valley and Southern Texas...the best city of the lot.

 

     Of those autos, about two-thirds were those of seniors.   Of that number, about ninety percent were driven by spoiled upper-middle class, and well-to-do, conceited brats,  with your humble servant being among the poorest within that general grouping.  In those years, the non-Latin group was still in the vast majority, not only in the schools, but also in the general population.    In those days, there were very, very, very few people on any kind of public assistance....all the Latins spoke English, and about 10% of the non-Latins could speak good to excellent Spanish, and about 40% could understand and make themselves understood to some reasonable degree.

 

     In any regard, in all the trunks, and in various of the glove comparments of the autos in the McHi parking lot....it would be my estimate that 30 to 50 percent of the males' vehicles would have some kind of firearm.   During hunting season, for instance, the "guys" would show off their deer hunting rifles in theschool parking lot...my favourite was Tom Traylor's 30-30 lever action...an actual 1874 model, built in  1892.   It was a piece of mechanical art....and Tom could  drive a #8 Common nail into a 2 X 4  at two-hundred yards.

     El Zorro had the number one most super neato, M - something  carbine, a semi-automatic, self-reloading .22 calibre rifle, of a type that was used by certain pilots in World War II and Korea in case that they survived a crash and found themselves behind enemy lines.   It was a really nice machine...but it was too short of barrel and had to have a special excise tax paid on it.  El Zorro never said whether  his father ever paid that tax, or where the rifle had come from.   My forte was pistols....but that little rifle sure was neat.

 

     But...to the point.  From the time El Gringo Viejo came to Earth until the time we went to Austin....about 17 years...and my bothers...tack on another few years....back to 1936....and then with my father's presence in the same area going back to 1915....we never had a school shooting at McAllen, or any of the schools in the Four County cachement referred to as The Magic Lower Rio Grande Valley of Texas.

     None of us were ever force-fed strange, behaviour-modifying drugs....the forerunners of which had been forced unto people in insane-asylums or in facilities for the severely to profoundly mentally retarded.

 

And that is the name of that tune.

El Gringo Viejo

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